Sharia-Fauxpas
Archbishop of Canterbury has hit back over criticism of his comments on sharia law, amid growing calls for his resignation.
Dr Rowan Williams made no proposals for sharia, and "certainly did not call for its introduction as some kind of parallel jurisdiction to the civil law", a statement on his website said.
He was "exploring ways in which reasonable accommodation might be made within existing arrangements for religious conscience" and his core aim was "to tease out some of the broader issues around the rights of religious groups within a secular state". [...]
[The Bishop of Hulme] added: "He is undoubtedly one of the finest minds of this nation. The way he has been ridiculed, lampooned and treated by some people and indeed some of the media within this process, is quite disgraceful."
The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) said it was grateful for the "thoughtful intervention" of the Archbishop on the discussion of the place of Islam and Muslims in Britain today.
A spokesman for Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "Our general position is that sharia law cannot be used as a justification for committing breaches of English law, nor should the principles of sharia law be included in a civil court for resolving contractual disputes."
He added: "If there are specific instances like stamp duty, where changes can be made in a way that's consistent with British law and British values, in a way to accommodate the values of fundamental** Muslims, that is something the Government would look at.
"But the Prime Minister believes British law should apply in this country, based on British values," he said.***
Dr Williams said other religions enjoyed such tolerance of their own laws, but stressed that it could never be allowed to take precedence over an individual's rights as a citizen.
He said it would also require a change in perception of what sharia involved beyond the "inhumanity" of extreme punishments and attitudes to women seen in some Islamic states.*****
A spokesman for the Ministry of Justice said: "Provided an activity prescribed by sharia law does not contravene the law of England and Wales, there is nothing in English law that prevents people abiding by sharia law if they wish to do so."****
But the spokesman added sharia law "has no jurisdiction in England and Wales. There is no intention to change this."
Eine interressante Logik es, wenn ein britischer Geistlicher der Anglikanischen Kirche die Einführung der Sharia für Muslime befürwortet, da es die Integration verbessern würde. Aha - anscheinend hilft es der Integration mit der Leitkultur des Aufenthaltslandes, wenn man seine Rechtsangelegenheiten in separaten Gerichten erledigen kann...
Hatten wir das nicht schon mal in Kanada? Haben nicht dagegen Tausende Muslime demonstriert?
Ich fasse es nicht - in Frankreich verbietet man Schülerinnen den Hijab, in UK erwägt man die Sharia?
Ich frage mich, wann auch die SPD in ihrer Grande Coalition so einen Schritt ins Auge fassen. DIe Prostitution* ist ja schon legitimiert worden, warum nicht auch die Rechte und Ehre der Muslima verkaufen?
Ich kann Einstein nur zustimmen - über die Endlichkeit der Menschlichen Dummheit bin ich mir nicht so sicher.
*(besser gesagt die Position der Freier gestärkt)
** wtf? "fundamental Muslims"? Kann mir das mal einer erklären?
***Überraschend...
****Well, but then it's not a bloody issue for official regulation anyway.
***** This argumentation renders the whole discussion obsolete - if we soften up sharia to abide by secular law, the measure becomes absolutely ridiculous.
Dr Rowan Williams made no proposals for sharia, and "certainly did not call for its introduction as some kind of parallel jurisdiction to the civil law", a statement on his website said.
He was "exploring ways in which reasonable accommodation might be made within existing arrangements for religious conscience" and his core aim was "to tease out some of the broader issues around the rights of religious groups within a secular state". [...]
[The Bishop of Hulme] added: "He is undoubtedly one of the finest minds of this nation. The way he has been ridiculed, lampooned and treated by some people and indeed some of the media within this process, is quite disgraceful."
The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) said it was grateful for the "thoughtful intervention" of the Archbishop on the discussion of the place of Islam and Muslims in Britain today.
A spokesman for Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "Our general position is that sharia law cannot be used as a justification for committing breaches of English law, nor should the principles of sharia law be included in a civil court for resolving contractual disputes."
He added: "If there are specific instances like stamp duty, where changes can be made in a way that's consistent with British law and British values, in a way to accommodate the values of fundamental** Muslims, that is something the Government would look at.
"But the Prime Minister believes British law should apply in this country, based on British values," he said.***
Dr Williams said other religions enjoyed such tolerance of their own laws, but stressed that it could never be allowed to take precedence over an individual's rights as a citizen.
He said it would also require a change in perception of what sharia involved beyond the "inhumanity" of extreme punishments and attitudes to women seen in some Islamic states.*****
A spokesman for the Ministry of Justice said: "Provided an activity prescribed by sharia law does not contravene the law of England and Wales, there is nothing in English law that prevents people abiding by sharia law if they wish to do so."****
But the spokesman added sharia law "has no jurisdiction in England and Wales. There is no intention to change this."
Eine interressante Logik es, wenn ein britischer Geistlicher der Anglikanischen Kirche die Einführung der Sharia für Muslime befürwortet, da es die Integration verbessern würde. Aha - anscheinend hilft es der Integration mit der Leitkultur des Aufenthaltslandes, wenn man seine Rechtsangelegenheiten in separaten Gerichten erledigen kann...
Hatten wir das nicht schon mal in Kanada? Haben nicht dagegen Tausende Muslime demonstriert?
Ich fasse es nicht - in Frankreich verbietet man Schülerinnen den Hijab, in UK erwägt man die Sharia?
Ich frage mich, wann auch die SPD in ihrer Grande Coalition so einen Schritt ins Auge fassen. DIe Prostitution* ist ja schon legitimiert worden, warum nicht auch die Rechte und Ehre der Muslima verkaufen?
Ich kann Einstein nur zustimmen - über die Endlichkeit der Menschlichen Dummheit bin ich mir nicht so sicher.
*(besser gesagt die Position der Freier gestärkt)
** wtf? "fundamental Muslims"? Kann mir das mal einer erklären?
***Überraschend...
****Well, but then it's not a bloody issue for official regulation anyway.
***** This argumentation renders the whole discussion obsolete - if we soften up sharia to abide by secular law, the measure becomes absolutely ridiculous.
Almujadilah - 9. Feb, 11:42
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